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Date(s) - 24.09.2011


Liverpool Quaker Meeting House



for the meeting of Central Council

to be held at 2pm on Saturday 24th  September 2011 at Liverpool Quaker Meeting House  22 School Lane L1 3BT

Apologies for absence: Brian Fisher, David Mattocks, Lynne Friedli, Melanie Johnson, Neil Goulborne, Tina Funnell, Peter Mayer, Mike Grady, Chris Bain, Jane Thomas, Tom Fitzgerald, Ali Syed, Barrie Brown, Jane Roberts, David Pickersgill, David Amos, Gavin and Rosemary Ross, Rehana Azam

Expected: Harry Clarke, Huw Davies, Mike Young, Richard Bourne, Jos Bell, Richard Grimes, Simon Wright, Nye Harries, Doug Naysmith, Mike Roberts, Noemi Fabry, David Amos, Lewis Atkinson

Minutes of the July  meeting:

Minutes of the meeting of Central Council on Saturday 2nd July 2011 at 46 New Broad Street, London EC2

Apologies for absence: Ali Syed, Mike Young, Ali Syed, Jane Thomas, Doug Naysmith, Tina Funnell, Rehana Azam, Neil Goulborne, Mike Grady, David Mattocks, David Amos, Peter Mayer, Patrick Vernon, Tony Beddow,

Present: Brian Fisher, Martin Rathfelder, Gavin Ross, John Lipetz, Jos Bell, Simon Wright, Noemi Fabry, Melanie Johnson, Mike Roberts, Jane Roberts, Barrie Brown, Michael English, Vivien Giladi, Richard Bourne, David Pickersgill, Huw Davies, Rosemary Ross, Harry Clarke

Minutes of the meeting held on Saturday 19th June 2010 -noted

1.1.Matters arising not elsewhere on the agenda –
none arising

2.Discussion on political situation:

2.1.Labour Party:

Some members bemoaned the fate of any resolution forwarded to the party and lack of influence of ordinary members. One felt that we should not focus so much on Labour Party when discussing policy development. In opposition to this was the view that the Labour Party offered the only realistic opportunity of seeing policy put into practice. Others wished to discuss what the focus of policy development should be and public health was suggested.  Another view was that the present situation offered an opportunity to influence the response to the Bill and possibly  Labour policy direction.

The discussion also covered the nature of the document ‘Better Future for Britain’  which was characterised as being  weak on health issues. It was suggested that SHA should write to Liam Byrne about this and copy in John Healey.  There was some dissatisfaction with the approach taken to the Bill to date and lack of use of opportunities for  criticism and propounding an alternative vision but also that the SHA should endeavour to work with Labour spokespersons and advisers in terms of opposing the Bill and influencing policy alternatives.

One member raised concerns about the proposal to do away with elections to the Shadow Cabinet and its effect on party democracy.

2.2. The Coalition –
the discussion merged into the next item
2.3.Campaigning against the Health Bill:

This was an extremely wide ranging discussion (where the general feeling was any amendments to the bill were
likely to be minor and would not divert main thrust of legislation) which may be best summarised by the following
points – recorded not according to any particular priority:

How can the campaign establish an alternative narrative around Bill?
What were the most productive tactics the SHA could use?
Should the SHA focus its campaign around quality of care?
SHA should distinguish between short and long term campaign focus and tactics;
Should we oppose any hospital closure because of opportunity to criticise government?
Do we oppose all markets in health care?
Should the SHA devote resources to further developing web based campaign tools?
Should SHA try to operate a rebuttal approach?
How best can the SHA try to change the ways in which we think about health issues?
Is the SHA able to produce or encourage and assist in producing a health impact assessment of government policies?

How best can the SHA work with other organisations such as unions and think tanks?

The Director agreed to look at all points and come back with practical suggestions and proposals.

3.Performance and Finance

The Director was congratulated on his efforts in coordinating the organisation’s approach to the campaign as well as
for his work in maintaining SHA’s profile. The Director pointed out the possible impact of boundary changes and consequent selection procedures.  It was suggested that the SHA needs to target younger persons to become active members.

4.Branches -London, Scotland, Wales ,West Midlands, Newcastle, Bristol, Yorkshire, Liverpool, Manchester
Reports were received.

1.1.   Matters arising not elsewhere on the agenda

Discussion on political situation

2.1.   Labour Party – Health Policy Commission

2.2.   Campaigning against the Health Bill

  1. Performance and Finance
  2. Any other urgent business
  3. Date, time and venue of next meeting: noon Saturday 14th January 2012

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